tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5927279725204745907.post414556018165991742..comments2023-10-04T06:00:34.156-07:00Comments on The Red Mieni: Here's How Brett Favre Tried to Screw Over the Green Bay PackersThe Red Mienihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04672422579178449737noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5927279725204745907.post-23590505240332161012011-05-17T22:23:25.100-07:002011-05-17T22:23:25.100-07:00Hey Diurnalemissions, thanks for the thoughtful an...Hey Diurnalemissions, thanks for the thoughtful and well-said comment! I think we are pretty much on the same page here. <br /><br />I especially agree when you say, "And when Harlan brought back Thompson back to the home office two decisions needed to be made - get rid of Sherman and get Favre back into line." That statement, when coupled with your opinion that "Favre was King of the 85th Percentile" makes perfect sense. <br /><br />Favre thought he was the king of the organization and got comfortable riding on cruise control. He got his feelings hurt when Thompson and co. came in and had the audacity to ask a little bit more of him. <br /><br />From that point on I think Favre was counting down the days until he could get out of town just so he could show Thompson up. I think the proof of that is in the way he manipulated a hit against the Packers salary cap by orchestrating a bogus retirement, especially in light of his strong desire to play for the Vikings.The Red Mienihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04672422579178449737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5927279725204745907.post-9432334063941312702011-04-08T10:23:15.374-07:002011-04-08T10:23:15.374-07:00Interesting take. It never occured to me that Favr...Interesting take. It never occured to me that Favre could have been jonsing to leave the Packers as far back as 2006. I've always assumed that he had had enough of the Packers (i.e. TT) heeding his demands for linemen, or coaches, or receivers, and decided to play the game just on the other side of the retirement line, but this coming in 2008. He had shown his displeasure at the front office decisions by hemming and hawwing about retirement and it didn't have an impact, so he actually crossed the line. He assumed that this would cause enough of a stir, and enough consternation with the power structure, that he would get his sense of importance back. But to his shock they moved on without him. I guess I figured it was this juncture point that Favre began to look elsewhere and the rest of the divorce unfolded.<br /><br />Your take is more sinister in that he was hatching plots much earlier. I don't know if I fully agree or not yet, I have to let it marinate for a while. But it sure beats the "hey der, Favre retired but he still wanted to play and the stoopid Packers didn't want'im no more, what was he supposed ta do?" sound track. At the very least Favre wanted to dictate the Packers move in certain directions for his benefit, and they just weren't about to do so. Since the twaining of the Packers into two franchises (Packers Central and Packers West (Seattle)), those who went with the West branch office (Holmgren, Thompson, Hasselbeck) fared better than the original home off branch (Favre, Sherman (former Seattle OC), Green). And when Harlan brought back Thompson back to the home office two decisions needed to be made - get rid of Sherman and get Favre back into line. Favre wasn't playing that tune. And one way or another, he saw the Vikings as his last shot to win it all playing Favreball (which was precisely the problem with the Central, home office branch for the early 2000's). It is little wonder by early 2011 the Vikings were driven into the wall on the 240th lap by Favre playing Favreball (and sucking Childress down the drain with it) in 2009 and the Packers, with the West branch and Central branch remerged and reorganized, win it all in 2010. <br /><br />I just wonder what would have happened if Favre had been benched back in 1994 in favor of Brunell. Brunell was as bood as Favre from the mid to late 90's and most likely could have done as much if not more. Maybe Holmgren wouldn't have gone off to Seattle, Thompson (with his keen eye for talent) would have stayed too, as well as Hasselbeck taking over for Brunell, and there never was a sundering of the talent pools, front office and field level. Favre had several years, post Holmgren, to have things his way, and the Packers got very little. Favre was King of the 85th Percentile, great within or below that range, usually awful above it. He was in no position to dictate anything as far as I am concerned, and should just have gotten with the program. But he insisted on being able to play Favreball with his people, and the organization wasn't going to let it continue. <br /><br />And, without a doubt, the Packers were right and Favre was wrong. I think all we need do is ask Brad Childress his opinion.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12868880299476954274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5927279725204745907.post-64732779307291450472009-10-31T11:01:52.607-07:002009-10-31T11:01:52.607-07:00Here are some great quotes from Brett Favre himsel...Here are some great quotes from Brett Favre himself in regards to Javon Walker's holdout in 2005:<br /><br />“Nowadays you’re seeing more and more guys pulling that stunt. If guys continue to do that and are successful getting away with it, then I’ll be gone, but I think the game will be ruined. My reaction to Javon’s situation was, ‘Here we go again."<br /><br />“Javon has tremendous potential. We got to see some of that last year. The sky’s the limit for that guy, and I’d be the first to defend him, but he’s going about it the wrong way. What happened to honoring your contract and saying, ‘Let’s work as a team to see if we can get this done?’ Why not go about it that way?"<br /><br />“Maybe I’m old-school, but I always thought you honor a contract.....I sure hope the Packers don’t give in to him.”<br /><br />- Brett Favre from May of 2005The Red Mienihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04672422579178449737noreply@blogger.com